tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post2151024871637588991..comments2024-03-29T20:40:54.890+11:00Comments on Walter Pless on Association Football: TIS may play in Premier League ReservesWalterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11493237569003662448noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-67062825404889258402010-01-28T12:46:24.423+11:002010-01-28T12:46:24.423+11:00put 15s in div 1put 15s in div 1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-10665960610404310092009-12-22T14:15:04.957+11:002009-12-22T14:15:04.957+11:00Here are some links to TIS playing in the Institut...Here are some links to TIS playing in the Institute Challenge held in Melbourne earlier this year.<br /><br />Institute Challenge TIS V AFS Highlights 1st Half<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bqYTJeYKZI<br /><br />Institute Challenge TIS V AFS Highlights 2nd Half<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMC4ivZ_XWgvictorianpremierleaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801909703742679287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-31983737383874259972009-12-11T20:00:41.767+11:002009-12-11T20:00:41.767+11:00sideline observer boys have to eventually play aga...sideline observer boys have to eventually play against men anywhere. It's part of player development.<br /><br />the issue should be they play with a team who has experienced players in it not an exclusive youth team and they play in a technicaly good league not a physical one.Richard Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279018136372849497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-82168140239100021362009-12-11T10:49:41.162+11:002009-12-11T10:49:41.162+11:00If the past is anything to go on surely putting th...If the past is anything to go on surely putting the U15s in Div 1 playing against adults will lead to injury. This was seen earlier this year during a "practice" game between the State U15s and Nelson Div 1 where young Stuie Page had his State Representative aspirations squashed when the goalie's slide tackle broke his knee.<br /><br />Playing up is fine as long as the boys are emotionally and physically strong as well as skillful enough to endure it, but regardless they should not put in to a division or play against teams (practice or otherwise) where the aim will be to "take them down" just because they can. After all they are going to represent the state (us) later in the year, so why injure them or put them in a division where they could be!Sideline Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-74013562971613995092009-12-09T16:22:05.695+11:002009-12-09T16:22:05.695+11:00Thanks Observer.I agree.
I've heard enough on ...Thanks Observer.I agree.<br />I've heard enough on the TIS. Lets discuss something positiveInterestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-19454219186324058632009-12-09T16:11:17.612+11:002009-12-09T16:11:17.612+11:00Anonymous , the rumblings I have heard are from pa...Anonymous , the rumblings I have heard are from parents of the boys and other people I have spoken to have heard similar reports.<br />In my opinion Anonymous ,if it has been running for 2 years and that has catered for say 20 players in that time, and 4 leave , then that is a large number in my book. The squad has been fairly consistent other than new additions this year in that time.20% of a workforce leaving is a worry , dont you think ? Or dont you think !Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-25954378410572622062009-12-09T15:52:10.756+11:002009-12-09T15:52:10.756+11:00Interested
It is not surprising that over a 2-3 ye...Interested<br />It is not surprising that over a 2-3 year period with a progamme such as this, particulalry with the resitance it has met since inception, that a few (not "many" as you suggest) will leave.<br /><br />Could it be that the problem is not with the TIS at all but with those who rumble in the background?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-62943385159197166032009-12-09T15:37:11.216+11:002009-12-09T15:37:11.216+11:00Big Dog, I am not criticising the TIS.It is a grea...Big Dog, I am not criticising the TIS.It is a great thing. What I was suggesting was that there appears to be alot of rumblings in the background about the personnel running these programs. That has been going on for some time now, and the fact that there have been many leave the program voluntarily ,suggests that someone needs to look into the reasons and fix the problem.Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-1069304709981153632009-12-09T14:53:39.052+11:002009-12-09T14:53:39.052+11:00Interested,
Prior to the TIS I don't recall an...Interested,<br />Prior to the TIS I don't recall any pathway for young players at all beyond State U15s. <br />Perhaps you could suggest an alternative, maybe even take over at the top?The Big Dognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-46801663166834305592009-12-09T13:31:08.221+11:002009-12-09T13:31:08.221+11:00It is obvious there are issues with the whole TIS ...It is obvious there are issues with the whole TIS arrangement.Someone seriously needs to look at the current situation or this pathway for our better youngsters may be replaced by another sport. It seems that Tasmania ends up with certain people in high places in the sport here, who were not successful elswhere. This is becoming a common theme in many aspects within the sport recently.Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-70429415740103598812009-12-08T23:06:38.244+11:002009-12-08T23:06:38.244+11:00From my information there are 5 who have pulled ou...From my information there are 5 who have pulled out since end 2007 and at least 1 declined the offer. A number of others have been axed.<br /><br />The inside is that a number more will be pulling out sooner than later. Watch this space.<br /><br />In a way it is good to see that the clubs are providing an attractive alternative to the TIS. Maybe it will make the powerbrokers more accommodating and less abrasive. A lot of coaches are unnecessarily hard on these top youth players who have to sacrafice a lot for the privilege.<br /><br />Is it true that FFA has dictated only 15 and 16 year olds can play in TIS in 2010? That doesn't sound right. Where are the talented ones meant to go after that? To the clubs?Who careshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03142455623903160678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-79015744613572158262009-12-08T22:07:42.162+11:002009-12-08T22:07:42.162+11:00Gee I wonder what year Will Abbott and Jeremy Walk...Gee I wonder what year Will Abbott and Jeremy Walker were born in. Maybe they slipped past the FFA rules.<br /><br />Both good lads but certainly not born in 1994 or 1995.<br /><br />There were more than 2 who "chose to withdraw themselves" from TIS, which is my point - you anonymous idiotCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-48345356194135254932009-12-08T14:02:51.551+11:002009-12-08T14:02:51.551+11:00You know "I Know", I know you don't ...You know "I Know", I know you don't know.I Know You Don't Knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-5173223001620679512009-12-08T08:58:58.047+11:002009-12-08T08:58:58.047+11:00Anonymous , the additions to the squad this year w...Anonymous , the additions to the squad this year were those born in 1995. Then there was only 5 or 6 added for 2010. There are still older players that form the majority of the squad.<br />Get your facts right before commenting.<br />Also , "I Know" did not mention the TIS coach specifically. He referred to "elite coaches".<br />He could be referring to others .Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-89439113590121311052009-12-08T08:23:54.265+11:002009-12-08T08:23:54.265+11:00I KNOW!!!!
The age of players in the Institute pr...I KNOW!!!!<br /><br />The age of players in the Institute programs is dictated by FFA, so for 2009/10 they must be born in 1994 or 1995.<br /><br />So that takes quite a few of those players you ve mentioned out of the equation.<br /><br />McIntyre and Nandan both chose to withdraw themslves from the program.<br /><br />prehaps you should go and speak to Dean May, and get the facts before verbally abuseing him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-28348354737993792762009-12-07T22:39:43.044+11:002009-12-07T22:39:43.044+11:00I Know , your comments are spot on.
The present &q...I Know , your comments are spot on.<br />The present "elite" coaches,by job description only ,as far as I am concerned,need to take some humility pills and less of the arrogance pills.What a great example of how not to treat and speak to fellow human beings. This type of behaviour might be OK in a zoo ,or from where they come from ,but not in a society that would rightly expect that these "elite", provide a good example to our young players. Disgrace.Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-52684140067033336522009-12-07T21:31:27.908+11:002009-12-07T21:31:27.908+11:00The TIS is run in a manner that has excluded or di...The TIS is run in a manner that has excluded or dienchanted many talented players around 15 - 17. <br /><br />If Scott, McIntyre, Hughes, Mann, Pennicott, Barron and Nandan were (still) in TIS then maybe they would present a good argument for inclusion. <br /><br />However they, being arguably the best young talent in Tassie, (along with a few other exclusions)are playing Premier League Seniors for their various clubs.<br /><br />One lesson our "elite" coaches could learn is that if they want to act like arrogant assholes along the way then they can't expect the general football community to embrace them and their agenda.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-45464685981477858712009-12-07T15:24:55.020+11:002009-12-07T15:24:55.020+11:00anonymus,if tis wants to run with the big boys it ...anonymus,if tis wants to run with the big boys it should be treated equal to the bigboys,that means having the same rights but also the same obligations,last season clubs fought for promotion and tried to avoid relegation,why should tis simply walk into the premierleague without having had to earn it?anyway we see what is decided in a while and just have to live with whatever is decided.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-35927627338194563872009-12-07T15:05:39.037+11:002009-12-07T15:05:39.037+11:00yes professionalism is required interested and you...yes professionalism is required interested and you are absolutely right.i am neither a professional or an expert however i love the game.and want to see it prosper.nothing as satisfying as to see people from every walk of life playing no matter how good or bad they are.we need experts at the top who provide the guidance, i still believe that the main effort will have to be done by volunteers at grassrootlevel, i would love to see primaryschoolkids get into clubs or at least see the clubs involved in their coaching etc.maybe some clubs could get some their premierleague players sometimes to mingle with these kids if they can make the time.if fft really runs the sport then it should be in charge of the lot.if schools have sport the educationdept employs a physed teacher.why should schoolsoccer be run by a well meaning parent,maybe someone has a good plan to see these kids become paty of a club as soon as they start playing,after all they are the future.one thing we all obviously agree on it is gonna take a lot of hard work and it has to be very long term commitment.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-55446561250168529922009-12-07T12:04:12.995+11:002009-12-07T12:04:12.995+11:00If the TIS want a run in premier league then give ...If the TIS want a run in premier league then give them a chance. give them some practise games against some premier league teams to see how they go. Its quite simple really and if they are good enough they will need another team from div 1 so let there be a tournament or playoff with div 1 teams so it makes a 10 team premier league seasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-27977898804396269032009-12-07T11:52:13.927+11:002009-12-07T11:52:13.927+11:00Your final comments are spot on Richard.The sport ...Your final comments are spot on Richard.The sport needs professionalism and new blood.We need the suits in there to promote and lift the profile.Over the top some may suggest ?<br />Not if we are fairdinkum and serious about the improvement of the sport.The leader should be someone who is not afraid to get out in the market place , pushing the sport in the face of the general public ,but should be approachable and personal enough that the local community, children playing the sport ,know who this person is. He should be known to all players and parents of kids trying out for representative sides ,for example.<br />For lack of a better word , the current arrangement is very ameteurish.Interestednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-79707009990934823002009-12-07T11:12:15.164+11:002009-12-07T11:12:15.164+11:00Jerry and interested sorry for the long post but I...Jerry and interested sorry for the long post but I can't really abreviate.<br /><br />I just think that the FFT is bogged down with things it should not have to really concentrate on. I don't shy away from some criticism about clubs either who need to lift standards of administration and be active in their local communities promoting the game and their club will benefit. (something you have covered previously Jerry) I also appreciate this effort is difficult because of the amatuer and volunteer base within clubs....been there done that.<br /><br />The big ticket items need to be addressed because I think despite debate about how it is being done and by whom things like player, coach development and competition structures are starting to show some direction. My major concern here has been the lack of engagement by the FFT and the standoff that develops through a lack of trust with the clubs. The FFT need to get that situation right before any good will come of it. <br /><br />The FFT need to look to the next 5 years with optimistic targets but ones that are achieveable. That will probably mean getting the right people to assist in areas of expertise such as the media, sponsorship, facility development and turning groundswell participation into lifelong players and supporters. Easier said than done perhaps but I think it is achieveable as we have the FFA blueprint under Frank Lowy to look at. Didn't he bring in people like O'niel and Singelton in the short term to do a job just as he would with his business. Looking at a local example we already have mentioned hockey.....for gods sake it's a minor sport by anyones assessment and more so in Tassie but they have already what we aspire to.<br /><br />Also we have the feasibility study for the a-league proposal that has already been conducted for the state government and covers issues of potential growth and competition with other codes etc. Does the FFT use this free and professional advice I wonder?<br /><br />Finally I don't suggest that there haven't been some great people on the Board at FFT (the late Steve Gasparinatos, Bob Gordon, Pete Best etc) but again I think they have had to be continually putting out spot fires of discontent and not focussed on the big issues as they should.<br /><br />A lot could be achieved by having a plan and putting the people in place to carry it out. If it means either subsidising wages or paying the right people why not. after all we seem to be financially struggling for no result so at least change the later situation.Richard Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279018136372849497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-75499411222096061472009-12-06T13:26:53.499+11:002009-12-06T13:26:53.499+11:00read div 2,sorryread div 2,sorryjerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-30697585813942977472009-12-06T13:20:24.561+11:002009-12-06T13:20:24.561+11:00for instance interested we condemned competive sma...for instance interested we condemned competive small clubs to the wilderness of div 2 and the social leagues because they could not field any youthsides.has that resulted in more kids entering the sport or just killed of a cfew competive teams?overseas they are forced to separate teams and clubs into different leagues because of the sheer weight of numbers of clubs.and players.we dont have that problem here yet.most clubs are struggling to put more then 5 teams on the park.i believe that to get the best football on the park you have to let the best teams to the fore,and let every league sort itselfout by promotion and relegation in every league.after all it is a competetive sport.only the best teams deserve to be in the top and the only way to do that is by proving it on the park. i know i will be shot down over this but that would mean that some teams from the same club might end up in the same league,this is allready the case in div 4.the best teams and players are in the premier league,the next grade down is without a doubt the premierleague reserve league,i believe by the way that the top 2 reservesides would holda spot in the premierleague comfortably,yet we expect potential premierleague teams to come from div 1,of wich the majority would get more then they can chew from div and the the better social leaguesides.with a small population we cant support that many clubs but we sure have a heck of a lot of talent that can provide strong competion.anyway i think you know what i am getting at.it is a competive sport and only by winning should you get to the top not by fancy footwork around the boardroomtable.for instance to see a team that is runner up in div1 condemned to languish in div2 is ludicrous.(eagles,season before last)there are a lot of good players etc being wasted in the social league,who can still provide div2 and some div1 teams with good competion,why not use them?<br />ok you can shoot me now.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-87594385548211960022009-12-06T12:44:46.916+11:002009-12-06T12:44:46.916+11:00In what way ?In what way ?Interestednoreply@blogger.com