tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post411253993382899921..comments2024-03-29T06:48:00.592+11:00Comments on Walter Pless on Association Football: Australia 4-0 India: It should have been a cricket scoreWalterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11493237569003662448noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-84450671287447239892011-01-14T17:03:13.529+11:002011-01-14T17:03:13.529+11:00Agree Anon 9.20 pm. Stats can be very misleading. ...Agree Anon 9.20 pm. Stats can be very misleading. Kewell may have had a pass completion of 97% for instance, but how effective was he really? A very poor imitation of the old Harry (I'd still play him mind). And regardless of what Decentric's stats may say, Australia played far too many balls into channels, long or not, and hit too many balls into the box from poor areas. Distribution from the back was also aimless. Shoddy performance. No improvement in our style at all under Osiek.<br /><br />As for 1-on-1 "duels" Decentric?. What is this? Fencing? :-)<br /><br />Mike Bassett (Why are we playing 44 f-ing 2?)<br /><br />England ManagerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-65101816755032368942011-01-13T21:20:39.259+11:002011-01-13T21:20:39.259+11:00I wonder if anyone else is becoming frustrated tra...I wonder if anyone else is becoming frustrated trauling through Decentric's increasingly frequent and overly verbose rants obviously designed to create an image of intelligence.<br /><br />Who cares whether a player had 97% effciency in passing. What counts is effectiveness. I watched the Tassie defenders vs CCM passing the ball with accuracy around its own backline under minimal pressure most of the night but how effective were these passes?<br /><br />Give me 1/2 dozen defence splitting passes creating good scoring opportunities any day ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-80697253998291444442011-01-12T21:33:49.230+11:002011-01-12T21:33:49.230+11:00It is good to see so much discussion about the Asi...It is good to see so much discussion about the Asian Cup. It is a big tournament - the biggest for the Socceroos outside the World Cup. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.<br /><br />Casual ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-35663062259067937082011-01-12T21:30:42.754+11:002011-01-12T21:30:42.754+11:00Carpet said:
Disappointed with Jedinak in midfiel...Carpet said:<br /><br />Disappointed with Jedinak in midfield. Carney looked average. <br /><br />McDonald didn't gel but had little time to do so. <br /><br />Attacking strategy was way too predictable - crosses from wide almost every time. Kewell's creative intricacy down the middle needs to be utilised more often in attacking forays. <br /><br />And the slowness of older bodies vs a quick Korea is a looming concern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-60426632418489757992011-01-12T20:39:13.144+11:002011-01-12T20:39:13.144+11:00Disgusted with the Australian performance. With no...Disgusted with the Australian performance. With no pressure we played too much predictable long ball & appeared to have no strategy whatsoever. People will put this down to the quality of the opposition but hey, other teams have beaten India by 9-0 & 6-0. A very poor disciplined performance by Australia. If you cannot out pass India you cannot out pass Japan or Korea. OMG, QLD Roar could have beaten his this team by 15-0.<br /><br />The BirdmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-77993321130254416192011-01-12T20:36:44.344+11:002011-01-12T20:36:44.344+11:00For those posters who think Australia played a ple...For those posters who think Australia played a plethora of long, high balls in the India game, Australia played 6.<br /><br />This equates to 1% of total passes. This is the lowest figure I've recorded for any team in any game!!!<br />There were other long passes, but not not long, high, speculative balls. A high figure, like the odd A League team, is circa 7%.<br /><br />DecentricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-63355188923983998432011-01-12T20:33:02.160+11:002011-01-12T20:33:02.160+11:00Three headed goals out of five (including Cahill&#...Three headed goals out of five (including Cahill's wrongly disallowed offside goal) against worse than mediocre opposition. The first goal was well worked down the right flank but otherwise, it's pretty agricultural out there in Socceroo land, with more long balls than a Jack Charlton coaching video. I don't like MacDonald, Holman or a David Carney clearly not playing regular football, but we don't have better. I think this level is beyond Kruse at the moment but at least he can beat. <br /><br />OlafAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-10367391549363127272011-01-12T20:30:36.824+11:002011-01-12T20:30:36.824+11:00RIDER says...
4 - 0 win against India it’s wonder...RIDER says...<br /><br />4 - 0 win against India it’s wonderful; but it could’ve been a missed opportunity to perfect the team’s strategy. <br /><br />We need to be known for a particular form of play and be good if not the best at it. Unfortunately I didn’t see any strategy, but long balls and loss of possessions in crucial moments and sectors, I guess you can do that and get away with it against India. <br /><br />Maybe we can blame the anxiety triggered by the memories of the previous Asian Cup? <br /><br />Then please bring on young guns with no fear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-16325387864828553182011-01-12T20:28:00.927+11:002011-01-12T20:28:00.927+11:00Good on India for trying to play the game properly...Good on India for trying to play the game properly throughout, rather than resorting to gamesmanship with dives or attempts to hold up play or milk penalties the way some other Asian teams have done in the past. Despite being down on the scoresheet it was nice to see them still trying to take the game to Australia in the moments when they had possession.<br /><br />JIMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-71881981399921491202011-01-12T19:30:34.628+11:002011-01-12T19:30:34.628+11:00SCOTT said:
Burns was pretty impressive, his touc...SCOTT said:<br /> Burns was pretty impressive, his touch and vision were both great. I was also impressed with Brett Holman, his recent form is crucial to the Socceroos progressing in the tournament IMHO. I would have liked to have seen Scott Mac introduced earlier as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-28664852563613930142011-01-12T19:19:46.297+11:002011-01-12T19:19:46.297+11:00Carney was awful. How many crosses into the box di...Carney was awful. How many crosses into the box did he waste. Also playing too narrow, never went outside his man to get some width going.<br /><br />They have put up missing person posters of Jedinak in Qatar.<br /><br />I am so sick of seeing this long ball rubbish. Every single time it comes out of the back via a long ball and it's frustrating. Why can't we keep it on the ground ? Neill gets it, punched up field. So frustrating.<br /><br />Emerton played well. Him and Timmy were the highlights.<br /><br />KevinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-11225499647280003282011-01-12T19:10:50.927+11:002011-01-12T19:10:50.927+11:00KLEBERSON SAID;
Cahill headed a goal which should...KLEBERSON SAID;<br /><br />Cahill headed a goal which should have been allowed. It was ruled offside. The replay showed he was onside.<br /><br />It should have been 5-0.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-49176088324279820082011-01-12T19:07:59.269+11:002011-01-12T19:07:59.269+11:00SOCCER LOVER:
Apples and oranges really! 4-0 is co...SOCCER LOVER:<br />Apples and oranges really! 4-0 is comprehensive and good enough. Teams that usually clock up Hockey scores in their first games are teams who peak early and come home early. I thought the performance was fine but hard to tell because the opposition really are not of this tournaments standard. We won't really know where we are until the next game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-41225778962615594752011-01-12T19:03:53.871+11:002011-01-12T19:03:53.871+11:00mick says,,
happy with a 4-0 but it couldve and r...mick says,,<br /><br />happy with a 4-0 but it couldve and really shouldve been more<br /><br />the linesman was a joke in the 1st half, so many bad calls and the ref didnt do a great job either.<br /><br />2nd half was poor, sloppy play..slow...we'll get smashed by Korea if we play like that.<br /><br />but as you know, when you play better opposition you tend to play better as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-11523243218529251122011-01-12T18:22:43.556+11:002011-01-12T18:22:43.556+11:00With Bosnar's mooted selection in this Asian C...With Bosnar's mooted selection in this Asian Cup, he has the ball skills similar to guys like Ognenovski and Kisnorbo but often tries some pretty daring passes, a lot that has seen him get caught out of position by giving the ball away. Can't remember who he was playing against but when he was at JEF, he tried to bring the ball out of defence and attempted a 40 yard throughball along the ground, it ended up getting intercepted and the opposing team did a counterattack and scored. Obviously it's not like that happens every time with him, but it has happened on occasion. Ogger seems to be doing the job ATM.<br /><br />SHARK ATTACKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-64305480419370762982011-01-12T18:18:35.370+11:002011-01-12T18:18:35.370+11:00Good wrap, Walter.
I note Decentric quoted differ...Good wrap, Walter.<br /><br />I note Decentric quoted different pass completion rates from those of Fox Sports.<br /><br />Alf RamseyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-80816662371372194822011-01-12T18:14:52.576+11:002011-01-12T18:14:52.576+11:00BILL thinks....
The performance I'd rate ok ov...BILL thinks....<br />The performance I'd rate ok overall. Not good not bad, ok. Also I bet no one thought the Socceroos were "hopeless" at half time, the second half was just lazy.<br />Agree there is some demented criticism, like saying the team were "hopeless". Of course there is 100 or so places differing in the FIFA rankings, regardless a 4-0 win is solid. Why threaten injury with high intensity football for 90 minutes? There were positives to mention as opposed to harping on the negatives; we had 3 different scorers which is great considering our form finding the net.<br />Agree there were things to constructively criticize. All our goals came from the right side. The left side which had Carney about half the time trying to help with the build up was feeble. Holman though was reasonable. Also we do play long balls too much. This game did show though we can actually play it pretty well on the ground so hopefully we minimize the hoof-ball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-48412455902071400132011-01-12T18:04:00.408+11:002011-01-12T18:04:00.408+11:00There were some postives for this game - one is th...There were some postives for this game - one is the way we play with Kewell upfront. It is ALWAYS better. I love Kennedy and all, but we stupidly get into a tendency to long ball it too much, when he's on the park. <br /><br />But Kewell pretty much forces Wilks, Emmo and the rest to play it along the ground more, atleast to the point of crossing from the byline. <br /><br />We're at our strongest with Kewell upfront, with not just our most lethal, but strongest line up, across the board.<br /><br />I guess the Og' was certainly solid, pardon the pun, too. He will surely start all the matches this tournament and he could well secure that CB spot entering into the World Cup Qualifiers later this year too, at this rate. <br /><br />Though a Kisnorbo returning from injury (IN the Championship with Leeds too, as opposed to League One) will have something to say about that, as too 'hopefully' Spiranovic becoming a regular again, for Urawa. <br /><br />The Og' is great and everything, including a great story - late bloomers are often a nice story - but we will be a better side for a longer period of time, once Spira can finally step up and the sooner he can, the better we can work towards a guy to supplant/replace Neill too.<br /><br />Charles<br />Bondi<br />NSWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-6501256858131723542011-01-12T17:34:39.159+11:002011-01-12T17:34:39.159+11:00Fame 5.19pm, it's Korea next, mate! If we don...Fame 5.19pm, it's Korea next, mate! If we don't win that one, then it's backs-to-the-walls stuff in the final game against Bahrain. Typical situation for the Aussies. It would be a huge help if we can beat the Koreans.Kanganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-31694170561793391142011-01-12T17:27:41.765+11:002011-01-12T17:27:41.765+11:00I agree that it wasn't a great performance, ho...I agree that it wasn't a great performance, however, it is difficult trying to break down any team that sets up to frustrate. I think sometimes against smaller nations/teams you need to play the simple ball and it will eventually open up, as it did.<br /><br />The Indians were very tidy at times, but the ozzies physicaly, looked like men against boys. Written by Anonymous.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Australia won 50 more one on one duels against India. Every Socceroo was in the ascendancy. <br /><br />This is unprecedented in the last 3 years!<br /><br />DecentricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-64047852022873012542011-01-12T17:23:43.080+11:002011-01-12T17:23:43.080+11:00JACK SAYS......
Always thought Eddie Bosnar shou...JACK SAYS......<br /><br />Always thought Eddie Bosnar should have been selected for the Asian Cup? Apparently he his going off in the J-League. What is the story with his omission?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-62635396566699793202011-01-12T17:19:58.559+11:002011-01-12T17:19:58.559+11:00good suggestion....spiranovic is a good replacemen...good suggestion....spiranovic is a good replacement for carney. Is it bahrain next? We should be using these first two games to fine tune for the koreans whilst learning to go for the throat once we are in front. We have to have a no mercy approach when we are leading.<br /><br />fameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-84044280889589138292011-01-12T17:17:07.880+11:002011-01-12T17:17:07.880+11:00David Carney has copped heaps of flack from fans a...David Carney has copped heaps of flack from fans around Australia.<br /><br />He has gained in confidence as the last two matches have progressed. Nevertheless, he has been under minimal pressure with a lot of time on the ball against UAE and India.<br /><br />I feel sorry for the guy. He has been a natural wide left player, but because of a dearth of talent for the Socceroo left back position, he has been forced into a defensive role. This was enginered by Graham Arnold at the last Asian Cup. His club career has seen him putting himself forward as a left back. He is better going forwards than defending.<br /><br />Against India he made few mistakes. He had a 93% pass completion rate, including 100% in the defensive half. <br /><br />He won 3 more one on one duels than he lost. <br /><br />Carney played 6 crosses into the box.<br /><br />This is a reasonable return. <br /><br />Also, he has linked quite well with Ognenovski and Holman on the left side. This has been particularly apparent when McKay plays at left midfield. McKay keeps the distances more compact on the left flank. He links well with Holman, Carney and Ognenovski defensively. Cohesion of players is important. Optimal distancing is paramount. McKay is more effective in the left midfield role than Jedinak or Valeri (in current form) in terms of keeping the Socceroos in a compact shape. <br /><br />Given Australia has four competent right backs in Wilkshire, Emerton, Culina and North, surely one of them could be successful at right back? All of them have better defensive qualities than Carney. Let Carney play as a left winger and play his more natural game.<br /><br />All decent sides we play against target this defensive left area as a weakness to be exploited.<br /><br />DecentricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-19966438281415252472011-01-12T17:12:57.573+11:002011-01-12T17:12:57.573+11:00DAN reckons:
It would be good to have Ersam Gulu...DAN reckons: <br /><br />It would be good to have Ersam Gulum in the squad to play at left back. Osieck chased him hard, even met him in person, just machinations had already taken him Turkey's way by then. Though yeah, in hindsight, Holger could've/should've selected him for Egypt, but heck, given the pressure already coming from Turkey, awell as his father's input, it still would've been difficult for him.<br /><br />The blame really goes with the previous regime for not calling him up around a year ago, when he was impressing in Turkey's second tier, with the very, league leading form that saw Besiktas chase him up. Verbeek was impressive chasing him some other dual internationals, but they were lax on Gulum and one wonders if the 'Arnie factor' had some sway there too, as apparently he fell out with Arnie, back circa the Olyroos 08, when he was with the Olyroos under Baan, but then never selected once Arnie took charge.<br /><br />We could've capped him several times a year ago, back well before the Turkish press, fans etc... even noticed him and as I suggested, he was an Olyroo only a couple years before. So it certainly is quite a loss, but there's wider responsibility here, than just in Osieck's hands - Osieck wasn't to know, he had poor information too, but it's not helped that Viddie as his assistant was also new/as oblivious as he was - But atleast we can be thankful Arnie is no longer an assistant. Had he been, then Gulum may've chosen Turkey even sooner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-73458153321892414802011-01-12T17:04:28.354+11:002011-01-12T17:04:28.354+11:00It is true what someone has said. A good team play...It is true what someone has said. A good team playing a 4-4-2 will be more successful than a bad team playing a 4-3-3.<br /><br /> Han Berger/Rob Baan intend to have all Australian teams playing variations of the 4-3-3 well, rather than the ad hoc approach of FFA in the past. We have had an ad hoc approach and inadequate tactical training for coaches in the past. <br /><br />Those pundits who claim we should use a diversity of formations assume all coaches have a working knowledge of all the formations. There has been no baseline knowledge and incremental coaching of any one formation in the past.<br /><br />Hopefully, we should be able to play a 4-3-3 and its 8 or 9 manifestations well in the future.<br /><br />DecentricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com