tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post1768801387127319092..comments2024-03-29T20:40:54.890+11:00Comments on Walter Pless on Association Football: Australia beat Oman 1-0Walterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11493237569003662448noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-20361798816767241542009-12-23T06:36:58.341+11:002009-12-23T06:36:58.341+11:00Thank you for your nice posting.
it is really help...Thank you for your nice posting.<br />it is really helpful to us.<br />such a nice topics.<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">Bathmate</a>bathmatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08828026417866333107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-29310551988581173142009-10-25T17:13:13.561+11:002009-10-25T17:13:13.561+11:00we come back to the crux of the matter observer,th...we come back to the crux of the matter observer,the suits can set up theclinics and the coaches and all kind of wonderfull programs,however it is still up to the clubs and their members to keep hold of all those kids and make them join their club and whats more make them feel they are wanted.for that you need vibrant clubs that want to grow and people that show a genuine desire to support their clubs.even most clubs are cursed by apathy and most of the work to actually keep the club alive is left to too few people.observer its no good having too many chiefs and no indians to actually do the recruiting and the supporting.clubs should be involved right from the first time kids get on the park to kick a ball.no good leaving to a parent who has no idea what he or she is doing.assist those parents and the parents become interested in the clubs and then their kids might join that club.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08535567640155556556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-4936630889046823132009-10-22T19:17:52.037+11:002009-10-22T19:17:52.037+11:00Disagree Jerry.It is FFT 's job to promote the...Disagree Jerry.It is FFT 's job to promote the sport.It should be their sole aim ,with the support of the clubs. Their job is not just to put rosters together ,but it appears that is all they are capable of .Maybe we should have more suits at the top Jerry.Wining and dining the organisations in our community that could be possible financial sponsors of the sport. We need more profesionalism at the top.observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-85732118411686521842009-10-22T16:44:19.320+11:002009-10-22T16:44:19.320+11:00observer,fft cannot get more people on the park on...observer,fft cannot get more people on the park only the clubs and their people at grassroot level will get more people by actually asking them to come and play and be part of the club.no amount of suits at the top will archieve that.all they can do put the rosters togetherjerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-19185633336838062172009-10-21T19:15:26.578+11:002009-10-21T19:15:26.578+11:00Probably paid for Kenny Morton's leopard skin ...Probably paid for Kenny Morton's leopard skin Loungemadmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-22918491819335177702009-10-21T18:20:52.431+11:002009-10-21T18:20:52.431+11:00Did the $800K all go to FFT or also to pay for TIS...Did the $800K all go to FFT or also to pay for TIS men and women boys and girls) over a four year period?Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-73162733754849792952009-10-21T15:03:11.957+11:002009-10-21T15:03:11.957+11:00jerry
I remember will russell well he was an immen...jerry<br />I remember will russell well he was an immense talent could have been anything unfortunately gave the game away at about 19-20. if he continued playing I'm sure he would have been playing at a high level interstate.<br /><br />madmcglone your right about the need for a state league which I don't think anybody would disagree with but the point being made by rangers pres is the practicality and consequences in the here and now. <br /><br />keep asking the questions though it is good to hear from the outside looking in.Richard Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279018136372849497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-67427461175874183982009-10-21T11:51:07.354+11:002009-10-21T11:51:07.354+11:00Fix the game at the top and the rest will follow s...Fix the game at the top and the rest will follow suit. With a bit of elbow grease that is. Rangers prez, I appreciate that you probably work tirelessly for your club and the game. It must be frustrating to listen to opinions on what should happen, when you have a bird's eye view of what is really going on. I am on the outside looking in, so I don't know the personalities involved or even the names of some of the clubs. But I am in a position that allows me to talk about the state of the game in the past and compare it to the present state of the game. We should be concentrating on the here and now, to get a state comp happening so the juniors have at least that to strive for. Having played a couple of years in a state league looks a lot better on your cv than 2 yrs in the northern league. I sometimes think there is too much emphasis on junior football and not enough on senior football. There is too much looking ahead happening, meanwhile the contemporary participants in senior football are being deprived of the best competition possible Give the kids something to strive for. To play in a state league comp and maybe something better down the line.madmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-63592762848170830942009-10-21T11:03:39.293+11:002009-10-21T11:03:39.293+11:00Jerry , I dont know if it is any better now and to...Jerry , I dont know if it is any better now and to be honest , I doubt whether anyone knows.At the end of the day , whatever you say ,I say , or anyone else says on this site ,is not going to change anything.FFT staff are the ones paid to do the job. That includes running courses for coaches ,clinics for juniors etc.observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-84564371489486414612009-10-21T08:55:46.092+11:002009-10-21T08:55:46.092+11:00observer from my own expierience with primary scho...observer from my own expierience with primary school kids the following happened.out of the 20 under eight kids we had at brighton primary only 3 kids went on to play seniors.adam bates and bradley sheehan and my son sam.those 3 allwent to newtown eagles.bradley and adam have moved interstate and only sam is still playing.my oldest son david is the only one i think from his group that is still playing.ken barker coached also at brighton and he had some great kids too.some people at south might remember will russell a promising keeper who played seniors for them for a while but i believe he got injured and had to give it away.that is only 3 or 4 kids out of 35 kids that went on.is it any better now observer?jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-81950756519319790772009-10-21T08:20:25.776+11:002009-10-21T08:20:25.776+11:00that is great observer,i really hope we can retain...that is great observer,i really hope we can retain those kids and see them go on and not fall thru the cracks by the time they are halfway thru highschool.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-51054488566430170892009-10-21T07:05:24.258+11:002009-10-21T07:05:24.258+11:00Walter I forgot about the $800000. You are correct...Walter I forgot about the $800000. You are correct.<br />Junior development does not appear to have improved to the tune of $800000.There has not been a state director for 18 months.It hasnt been used to pay wages for such a person. Maybe some of this allocated money should go towards the state sides to assist in sending teams interstate.This may then actually attract the best 16 bys rather than the best 16 who's parents can afford it.<br />Jerry ,there are more people playing generally. Not necessarily at senior level, but junior level.<br />There are definitely more teams at primary school level,particularly invovling girls.observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-26957101495372932272009-10-20T23:48:30.914+11:002009-10-20T23:48:30.914+11:00observer,if there are more people playing then eve...observer,if there are more people playing then ever before where are they?<br />i see only 8 premier league teams,8 premier league reserve teams 7 div 1 teams and reserves and then about 8 i think div 2 sides and the number of social league sides seems about the same.do we even retain more then 30% of the primary schoolkids and see them go on to play seniors?<br />al ia m really saying for the sport to go ahead participation growth goes hand in hand with developementjerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-11092262496470503252009-10-20T23:18:50.288+11:002009-10-20T23:18:50.288+11:00Observer
The State government gave FFT $800,000 o...Observer<br /><br />The State government gave FFT $800,000 over four years about three years ago to be spent on junior development.Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-1112802409790523742009-10-20T23:01:01.948+11:002009-10-20T23:01:01.948+11:00Jerry , do you honestly believe the sport will rec...Jerry , do you honestly believe the sport will receive government assistance ? Why would you believe such a thing ? There are more people playing our sport now than ever before. This hasnt encouraged the government to assist the sport financially at all.I was involved in a junior rep team some time ago and wrote to the premier fo some financial assistance for the travelling team. We were offered $50. Not $50 each boy , but in total .Wow ,what a show of support for a team representing Tasmania , from our state government.Our sport will never receive any financial assistance unless there is something in it for the state and government.No-one is going to offer financial assistance without something in return.observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-58420885563336259642009-10-20T20:21:11.607+11:002009-10-20T20:21:11.607+11:00I bet Walter is shaking his head at our comment, e...I bet Walter is shaking his head at our comment, especially minemadmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-48160286873898279112009-10-20T19:28:35.173+11:002009-10-20T19:28:35.173+11:00Diminishing the standard in tasmania wilm contribu...Diminishing the standard in tasmania wilm contribute to lowering that standard around the country, if you think laterally and holistically. I know this sounds out there but if you think about it it makes sense. Jerry, I am not forgetting lower league players, that's where I am at now. But every state body should have a mission statement devoting themselves to excellence. This means a creation of an elite competition. I think the excuse that, the north will collapse without their top 4 teams is not good enough. surely this will take care of itself. 'you should even be thinking about a state league 2nd division this would probably comprise of 80% southern teams. The rest should be left to their own devices to get a league together Maybe switch to summer soccer again so you're not competing with that boofhead game that dominates the headlines in the mercury.. What I'm suggesting might sound radical, but I certainly think it's achievablemadmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-13145592572240330432009-10-20T13:12:46.092+11:002009-10-20T13:12:46.092+11:00observer,every as pect is important.yes we do need...observer,every as pect is important.yes we do need to develop youth and provide pathways for them.it is omportant to plan for the future.it is equally important to cater for the needs of every player that is on the books today and also very important for the numbers of participants in the sport to grow.the bigger the sport becomes the more chance we have of obtaining gouvernment assistance etc and the more notice ffa will take of tassie.in the end you and i both want to see the sport prosper and the talent we have here reach its full potentialjerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-49478400954513101162009-10-20T12:48:58.420+11:002009-10-20T12:48:58.420+11:00observer
agee 100% in the last post. there seems ...observer<br />agee 100% in the last post. there seems to be a focus on generating dollars into the wrong coffers. overall value for money is simply not evident because a lot of the money is paying for non football costs.Richard Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279018136372849497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-51627891645429307442009-10-20T12:41:17.543+11:002009-10-20T12:41:17.543+11:00as you say observer,it all takes money and most of...as you say observer,it all takes money and most of the money comes from registrationsees,hence we need as many people as we can get to register and pay those fees.also most of the younger players you want to develop stem from people like myself who have too much time on their hands,in 15 years time those kids you developed will make up thosesocial leagues.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-31153987967684330302009-10-20T12:27:07.161+11:002009-10-20T12:27:07.161+11:00Jerry you obviously have too much time on your han...Jerry you obviously have too much time on your hands. I stated that MANY would not know what playing their hearts out was .I did not say all.There are players ,no doubt , that have played at higher level and do apply themselves.Many , however,regardless of what you believe ,are there for the social aspect only.<br />The $300 is irrelevant.If someone is paying $300 to play Div 3 and 4 then they are getting ripped off in my opinion. Go to other clubs and pay around $200 , there are many out there that will only charge that amount. Also I did not say that our senior competition is the backbone either.The backbone is the juniors and their parents who fork out $$$$$ every year for their children to play .Take this away and everything above will collapse and disappear.<br />The sooner we begin developing our youngsters properly , not worrying about how much money we can make from their parents, the better the results will be.There are too many clicky little groups in the sport in Tasmania that not only prohibits improvement , but destructs some good that has been done previously.observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-88651207080599211202009-10-20T12:02:50.573+11:002009-10-20T12:02:50.573+11:00another point observer,you state many people in th...another point observer,you state many people in the social leagues dont know how to play their hearts out,would they pay 300 bucks for the pleasure of not caring?jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-1048951473788830892009-10-20T11:27:57.952+11:002009-10-20T11:27:57.952+11:00observer the streghth of the sport is not the elit...observer the streghth of the sport is not the elite but the hundreds of people playing every week.just because they are not worldbeaters and not very good they still turn out and play with enough passion to win.observer if your best teams can only attract a meager 150 spectators to best football played in the state,you can understand why the local press is not very interested and walter pulls his hair out.if club commitees solely concentrate on getting bodies of whatever ability on the park everyone of them will probaply bring 2 or 3 friends to watch himor her.the clubs themselves have got to put every effort in to grow,not just swap existing players but fresh blood,preferaby young but any age will do,everyone puts another 300 bucks in the kitty.when the clubs grow so will the community interest and so will spectator numbers,when we attract an average of 500 people the mercury will have to tAke notice and report more,the fate of the sport is in the hands of the clubs to go out and grow,players of today should ask their mates to come and play etc.the more people we get on the park to play the more real talent will be discovered.fft cant make the sport grow it is up to the people at grassroot level.jerrie kruijverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373950674705962184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-14577723761576240832009-10-20T09:54:15.971+11:002009-10-20T09:54:15.971+11:00observer I think there is no doubt that the social...observer I think there is no doubt that the social league players subsidise the higher league teams when you look at subscriptions. usually paying similar or the same and social teams don't attract the same costs.....simple maths.<br /><br />yet most social league players are usually more involved on committees, bring in sponsorship because of business connections and generate income for clubs through social activities.<br /><br />the players although past their best are also usually club coaches and have played in some cases at a lot higher level than tasmanian state or premier league and know how to play.<br /><br />I know from experience a club that has a strong social element generate funds and atmosphere where people become supporters not observers.<br /><br />I can understand the point jerry is making.Richard Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279018136372849497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-10778732194645011032009-10-20T07:31:41.523+11:002009-10-20T07:31:41.523+11:00Jerrie ,what are you on ? The Div 3 and 4 the back...Jerrie ,what are you on ? The Div 3 and 4 the backbone of the sport ? In what way ? Many of the players in these divisions can no longer play in higher divisions, or cant play . That is why they are there.<br />Playing their hearts out ? Many would not know what that requires. That is why they are there.<br />I am not knocking these divisions or those playing in it ,but to suggest that they are the backbone .......?Wake up !!!observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07813904558971599158noreply@blogger.com