tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post7314996941012097171..comments2024-03-28T22:25:18.071+11:00Comments on Walter Pless on Association Football: South rely on penalty shoot-out to earn place in grand finalWalterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11493237569003662448noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-41801717728863342422009-09-17T11:19:25.695+10:002009-09-17T11:19:25.695+10:00excellent - good luck with it :)excellent - good luck with it :)Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-38967727693904859002009-09-17T10:50:08.818+10:002009-09-17T10:50:08.818+10:00More than happy for you to log on to www.tasfutsal...More than happy for you to log on to www.tasfutsal.com and I am almost certain that our Tassal Super League site will have a chat feature eventually. Both are very visually friendly sites.<br /><br />There will be footage of the games up every round from Super League. Probably a good chance to see some quality games. Will be a much higher technical standard. There will even be footage of Southern premier Leagues for both men and women and juniors every so often.<br /><br />I am sure that if you wanted a moan about the refs there will be plenty of opportunity as we actually have qualified refs in all grades from 6 yr olds through to seniors. That gives you options for you moaning as opposed to having the same week in week out to moan about in outdoor.<br /><br />Good luck with it anyway. Its been a pleasure.Corey Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857079388120017407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-71127064859450095292009-09-17T10:00:09.819+10:002009-09-17T10:00:09.819+10:00hey Corey now you're off to the futsal can you...hey Corey now you're off to the futsal can you give us the url to your blog site so we can get on there and bag the refs and have a general moan about things.<br /><br />i am talking to the bad corey arent I or have you already morfed into good (futsal) corey ????Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-89755293382430334812009-09-16T19:24:25.913+10:002009-09-16T19:24:25.913+10:00Utter rubbish toyota1... enough said!
Walter - al...Utter rubbish toyota1... enough said!<br /><br />Walter - all of my above posts are purely differences of opinion and are not meant to take away from the wonderful job you do reporting! You know my view on that so enough said...<br /><br />To the last post re- jacket worn...... thanks for the comments but how relevant is that to anything? <br /><br />I am a big believer in putting my name to comments and that if you do not have your name to it than it does not hold any weight whatsoever as it is purely pot stirring fabrication.. Anyway off to prepare for the real season!Corey Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857079388120017407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-31329621695756376322009-09-16T18:55:29.682+10:002009-09-16T18:55:29.682+10:00corey u lookd quiet handsome in the kingbrough lio...corey u lookd quiet handsome in the kingbrough lions jacket on sunday at the showgroundsharden up maggotshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00560832401149039257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-57279896382775192112009-09-16T18:25:58.906+10:002009-09-16T18:25:58.906+10:00chalky 23 either young or stupid or play for the s...chalky 23 either young or stupid or play for the same club as corey i dont think ive criticised some of your stupid comments but obviously you have played a bit maybe ressies a spot on the bench here and there for the seniors yes i suppose that qualifies you to comment on things that you are probably not versed in .as for sniping all the things i have said have been said to the person .young fella have you had a son play under corey and hear him yell and come out with the fff word 30 times at a half time break at 13 year old kids with disgusted parents looking on .this is a blog site so dont tell me that i am hiding and sniping as you are .hoping to hear back chalky 23toyota1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09122773945908692580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-75939481592853938632009-09-16T18:14:16.889+10:002009-09-16T18:14:16.889+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.toyota1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09122773945908692580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-13271082065086905082009-09-16T16:27:15.979+10:002009-09-16T16:27:15.979+10:00Just watched the send off in the semi. should have...Just watched the send off in the semi. should have been a yellow. Plus the dummy from the souths player preceding the incident looked a bit daft.madmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-79346942678293767172009-09-16T13:57:42.832+10:002009-09-16T13:57:42.832+10:00madmcglone
PART 3
So, these are the things one fa...madmcglone<br />PART 3<br /><br />So, these are the things one faces with limited space. If one then also mentions referees, there'd be no space to say anything much at all. This isn't to say that really strange refereeing decisions shouldn't be mentioned. They should. But, generally one could argue day and night about the merits of most (not all) send-offs, and so it's often better to just mention it and the referee's reason for it.<br /><br />As for the blog, this is where I can write as much as I want. That's why I started it. This is partly in frustration at the lack of space I get in the paper, but also so that I can mention team line-ups so that EVERY single player - even the substitutes who never got to play - get a mention. They can have a look and say, "Hey, I did play in that game. There's my name in the line-up." When Gordon Burnett wrote soccer for The Mercury in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, he published the squads in Friday's preview. Nowadays, there's no space in the paper for that with soccer (Aussie Rules has no such problem).<br /><br />As for the content of the report, I try and look at it from an objective point of view, as a neutral observer. I was a player and a qualified coach and I have<br />no allegiance to any club. I played for five clubs and was senior coach at three clubs, so I hope I do come across as unbiased in my reporting. I try to look at a game from a coaching perspective.<br /><br />You say that perhaps my agenda in the paper is to promote the game. I don't know if I consciously do that. I try and report it warts and all. When I have tried to promote it by mentioning the atmosphere and the crowd and so on, the reports have sometimes been cut and it all falls flat. The cynical side of me says such cuts are deliberate because whoever is in charge doesn't want to promote this great game of ours.<br /><br />One final point. In regard to penalties, I was arguing from the theoretical point of view, namely that a perfect penalty should be unable to be saved, even by a world-class keeper. I still hold that to be true. But, human frailties and luck play a part and that is why penalties are so fascinating. But, a perfectly struck spot-kick is impossible to save unless the keeper has bent the rules by moving early.<br /><br />Sorry about waffling on, but I do enjoy the debates on the blog and thank you, and everyone else, for contributing.Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-25641135835775105122009-09-16T13:57:13.833+10:002009-09-16T13:57:13.833+10:00madmcglone
PART 2
They also sometimes introduce s...madmcglone<br />PART 2<br /><br />They also sometimes introduce strange, alien terms. For example, I cringe every time they change my report and say so-and-so 'kicked' a goal. We don't 'kick' goals in soccer. We score, head, hit or net goals, but we don't 'kick' them.<br /><br />On this theme, I am disappointed at some of the language that is creeping in to soccer reports, mainly ones from the wire services such as AFP, AAP, Reuters and so on, usually in overseas match reports, but also in A-League reports. For example, moer and more I am reading about goalkeepers as 'stoppers'. They aren't. They may be 'shot-stoppers', but 'stoppers' are centre-backs, or centre-halves in the old terminolgy. I also don't like terms such as 'at the top of the box', or 'turnovers'. These are basketball terms ('top of the key') and shouldn't be used in soccer (football) commentaries. I know language changes, but these examples to me indicate a lack of true knowledge of our sport. But, I digress. Back to the core arguments.Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-34406370787447714602009-09-16T13:56:07.512+10:002009-09-16T13:56:07.512+10:00Madmcglone
PART 1
Thanks for your contributions. ...Madmcglone<br />PART 1<br /><br />Thanks for your contributions. They always make for interesting reading and I'm glad you've given reporting a try yourself.<br /><br />I know how you feel. In my own playing days, I occasionally wondered why I didn't get a mention in the paper in a particular match report. But then again, I did get a mention in other reports, so I guess it evened itself out.<br /><br />Now that I write for a paper, I can see the difficulties reporters have. Limited space is the problem. I have mentioned before that it is almost impossible to adequately summarise four or five games in 14 sentences. Given this limitation, on ehas to try and mention the main points. There are a minimum of 22 players involved and so it is rare for more than a few to get a mention in any one report. Those who score goals obviously have an advantage as they must be mentioned. If one summarises 4 games in 14 sentences (remember you generally also lead off with a catchy introduction that may not mention anything about the game itself but rather what the results have done to the ladder), one generally has three sentences about each game. If the sub-editors then also cut the story, which they usually do, then that's even fewer sentences per game and fewer players can get a mention. And the sub-editors more often than not know nothing about soccer and sometimes leave out sentences or incidents that I thought were important but that they didn't.Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-54052586615512733502009-09-16T12:48:50.100+10:002009-09-16T12:48:50.100+10:00Corey,
Just looked at a souths v knights game o...Corey,<br /> Just looked at a souths v knights game on you tube. The one where the goalie was stretchered off. You look like a decent player, and by the way that wasn't your fault that the goalie got injured, contrary to what was said by the youtube video provider. Going back to my suggestion, that you should maybe try to put fwd a report yourself on a game, I know how difficult it is to do as I have attempted to write game reports myself. You can only write from your on perspective, unless you get opinions from others to fill in the blanks. These opinions have to come from credible sources. I've come off after games with my own ideas how the game has unfolded, only to read contrary reports from scribes whose job it is to report matches. I think Walter has his own style, and I have mine. The differences between us is that he is a professional and I'm not. My reports are probably not subjected to the same editorial scrutiny as his are as I have only written for a local rag as opposed to Walter's task of writing for a mainstream newspaper. So, to put fwd an article with these kind of constraints can't be easy. His reports most likely have to be succinct and formulated to report on the events, and excuse me if I'm wrong Walter, to promote the game So I would imagine too much focus on negative aspects of the game, such as poor refereeing decisions would defeat the purpose of his task. Blogs such as this one are a good place to opine and give a perspective of event(s)and get feedback from the owner. I used to get a tad upset with Walter's reports (and by the way I wasn't that good a player)that I didn't get a mention for setting up a goal or doing something good but I soon got to realise that I was only focussing on myself, and that my contributions were probably minimal, and didn't warrant a mention. I do think you have a right to question reports, and good on you for doing so. Some of the replies to your comments were a bit silly i.e "criticizing Walter" that's what blogs are all about. It's good to get a bit of insight into why things were written. And Walter I disagree with your comment on penalty kicks. I've seen some well taken penalties saved by average keepers, never mind world class goalies I've also witnessed poor oenalties being scored against the likes of Peter Cech etc.madmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-22838208103424848912009-09-15T23:40:18.815+10:002009-09-15T23:40:18.815+10:00I certainly hope I'm never playing when Corey ...I certainly hope I'm never playing when Corey or Irate 1 ever take up refereeing.<br />by what ive seen maybe i should take it up and fit some of you lot with bifocals while im at it. <br />if you load the whole clip and then go frame by frame you will notice both the feet were grounded at point of tackle being made and it appears the knights players knee collided with the inner leg of the south player...<br />no studs made contact in this tackle and the ball was close to being contacted by both players at almost the same time resulting in it rebounding away --- not 5 metres away when tackle made.<br />this was my view of the film clip i didnt make mention of this to denegrate any person or player - unlike some idiots on here who use the blog to make there personal snipes at players or people in general. i enjoy the blog i enjoy the friendly stirring and the news updates but guys why do we have to bring walters blog down just to get in cheap shots at players that wont advance our game or tassies future in the sport.. haha ok so i had a shot about the bifocals but all in humour lets keep it that way.<br />ps: im off to jets a-league next home game 7000 fans adds a bit more atmosphere with players like young roonie coming out of the woodworksmithers ol manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07956520407938277648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-85184588844824576702009-09-15T20:58:03.677+10:002009-09-15T20:58:03.677+10:00Corey,
I don't know you, and you may be ri...Corey,<br /> I don't know you, and you may be right about the write up. Why don't you attend the grand final and put fwd an article of your own. No disrespect, but you probably don't have the vocabulary that Walter has but I'm sure you have enough savvy to put something together. Show us how a report should be written. I'm interested to witness you're rendition. I won't be able to make comparisons, as I won't be there but I'm sure there are those on here who will be attending the match to make comparisons. Now that the season is over and there is no more football, your effort will surely give us something to talk about.madmcglonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283792431948878507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-32931574861785528012009-09-15T20:37:54.191+10:002009-09-15T20:37:54.191+10:00omg i can not beleive anyone is having a go at wal...omg i can not beleive anyone is having a go at walter, this guy should be getting paid thousands of dollars to go every day of his weekend to watch the crap we call soccer in tasmania, if it wasnt for this guy there wouldnt be any coverage at all so lay off the guy, seriously who gives a crap who wins this finals series its a waste of time, as for the weekend knights vs south who cares who won the shootout or the 15 other times you have played this year against eachother, time for a change fft state leauge or state games against other states at this time of the year or its going to get worse and worse, as for kamba or what ever his name is if he actually got to take a penalty it would of been his first kick all year he is terrbilegoogleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650690937154101019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-61634638462413157932009-09-15T19:14:23.664+10:002009-09-15T19:14:23.664+10:00totally agree with your comments captain wouldnt y...totally agree with your comments captain wouldnt you love to have your kids subjected to this bloke as a role model .yes chris maybe he has provided a good pathway through futsal but would you employ him all he has done is made a job for himself ,wouldnt you like to see him in the real world.toyota1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09122773945908692580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-25631789993506632152009-09-15T19:08:27.972+10:002009-09-15T19:08:27.972+10:00amazing corey smith ,it is laughable that we persi...amazing corey smith ,it is laughable that we persist in even commenting on whether it be behavioral or meathead problems.did corey miss the penalty or did someone else miss it ,maybe it was the ref he has blamed everybody else for losing .maybe corey should have a look at the previous game and learn that you can go out and play entertaining and attacking football without being totally defensive no wonder people were walking out at half time after seeing such a mouth watering game before.this site was so much more interesting when you were suspended but no doubt some of your peers are right in their comments about you . can you give us the stats on your career without us asking please .oh we didnt ask.who would caretoyota1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09122773945908692580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-40558918436628847032009-09-15T18:54:36.583+10:002009-09-15T18:54:36.583+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.toyota1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09122773945908692580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-66210173479256148822009-09-15T18:04:35.843+10:002009-09-15T18:04:35.843+10:00It has happened again.
Corey Smith posts and ther...It has happened again. <br />Corey Smith posts and there are 25 + posts on the topic, It is amazing how this happens, Loved or Hated? I am guessing a bit of both, However he certainly interests people, It's funny as he had a very good game saturday but still managed to let his side down, I personally get a good laugh out of his posts, he uses the blog well for as his free promotional toolFirst coaching casualty 2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/11280520899542018527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-85160926693051200362009-09-15T15:53:25.054+10:002009-09-15T15:53:25.054+10:00So to keep the game a spectacle should players nev...So to keep the game a spectacle should players never be sent off?<br /><br />Soft or otherwise you know what you get when you walk onto a field, cross the line and you're off, simple.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09342010385835602592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-38979514630846014072009-09-15T13:34:50.382+10:002009-09-15T13:34:50.382+10:00Not once have I mentioned we didn't deserve to...Not once have I mentioned we didn't deserve to lose??? We lost yes!!! That is not my point and never has been if you actually read what's written.... I have not blamed the referee for losing.... but I blame him for killing the game as a spectacle (Have I not said that already??) <br /><br />Consistency is the problem... MK's tackle is no different to one on fielding 5 minutes later?<br /><br />Its a matter of opinion and my view is that if you look at any other league in Australia our league here is soft. Fact.Corey Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857079388120017407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-38398664625400321082009-09-15T13:11:09.214+10:002009-09-15T13:11:09.214+10:00Bloody Hell !
I certainly hope I'm never playi...Bloody Hell !<br />I certainly hope I'm never playing when Corey or Irate 1 ever take up refereeing.<br /><br />If you watch the Youtube replay (a luxury the ref didn't have at the time) you can see that when MT' studs made contact with Doggies ankle the ball was about 5 metres away.<br /><br />I reckon he's lucky he didn't break his leg.<br /><br />Tackles like those end playing careers and should be stamped out.<br /><br />Corey, you should accept defeat gracefully and stop always looking for someone to blame.<br /><br />Good game- good send off - you lost - get over it !seriously thoughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450905505202708646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-18524149464798400532009-09-15T07:27:38.581+10:002009-09-15T07:27:38.581+10:00Captain,
I agree with alot of what you have just ...Captain,<br /><br />I agree with alot of what you have just said, but one thing i just have to clarify...<br /><br />Corey is a horrible ambassador for the outdoor game, thats no secret I tell him that everyday... lol<br /><br />But the effort the guy puts in with the kids the indoor game cant be questioned.<br /><br />His attitude and diligence with Futsal is of such a high standard and its no wonder why all the junior parents and kids love him... He has offered a lot of opportunities to kids who would not get the same opportunities in the outdoor game. Myself included in that.<br /><br />Hopefully one day he will be able to bring that side to the outdoor version...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-56360056749247031452009-09-15T00:05:10.623+10:002009-09-15T00:05:10.623+10:00irate1
yes you need new eyes.(your corey eyes are...irate1<br /><br />yes you need new eyes.(your corey eyes are not appropriate)<br /><br />contact was after the ball was gone - that is a late tackle.<br /><br />contact was with studs to opponent's leg.<br /><br />late tackle - endangering the safety of an opponent = red card.<br /><br />the action was not an attempt to kick the ball in any direction but more of a downward movement that could only result in injury to the opponent if contact is made.<br /><br />hopefully referees will continue to attempt to protect players by appropriately punishing dangerous tackles. We want skilful players to exhibit their skills.Amazedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00265430606873496646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3290088887405022587.post-58686908871527523942009-09-15T00:03:25.877+10:002009-09-15T00:03:25.877+10:00Corey, you come across as a bad loser when you mak...Corey, you come across as a bad loser when you make these comments.<br /><br />Your team fought out the game well. The send off was debateable but ref's there to make a decision and that's the way he saw it. <br /><br />Your coach made 3 subs inside 75 minutes in a game that was heading to extra time. <br /><br />Good on him for trying to grab a win in 90 minutes. However, A neutral observer might say that the Knights' own actions led them to be playing with 9 men for 40+ minutes.<br /><br />You put yourself about as someone who wants to grow the game and help develop youth. The way you conduct yourself at times suggests you are unsuitable to mentor/coach young players.<br /><br />If you want to be a leader, how about some humility and good sportsmanship ...Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14709785366661636583noreply@blogger.com