Monday, January 18, 2010

Life just below the top flight in 1989


Here are some Reserve League, Southern Division One and Northern Division One squads from 1989.


Some players listed did, of course, also play in their senior club teams and may have been coming back through the reserves or through the club’s Division One sides after injury.


Others were on the way up and would make names for themselves in the top flight within a few years.


The lists give a good indication of the sort of talent that was about just below the top flight Cadbury State League of the time.


Croatia-Glenorchy: Tattam, Jeffries, Camidge, Kvesic, Brown, Kuman, Mesic, Joiner, Y Dzelalija, M Kerschbaum, Wright, F Dzelalija, Grundy, Baltic


White Eagle: Diubaldo, Collins, Garrigan, Tattersall, P Morrison, Hildyard, A Brown, Templeman, Jacobs, Case, Ware, Woulleman, S Vernon, S Young, Mason, Mainella, Plaznik, C Leszczynski


Olympia: Collar, Vavloulas, Keskeridis, Edwards, Hart, H Hages, Puclin, Tsakiris, K Tsiakis, G Hages, J Tsiakis, Palermo, Padas, Kantzos


Caledonian: Eagle, Stint, J Goodsell, P Murray, C Siddall, D Anderton, S Smith, B Anderton, P Jordan, P Sherman, G Jenkins, Fleischmann, Huy, I McGlone, R Stoneman, S Salter, Shields, Di Domenico, K Connell, G Calvert, Peters


Hobart Juventus: Williams, T Fabrizio, Storey, R Schiro, Gasparin, Nicholls, M Lapolla, Smart, Di Giovanni, Tickner, J Brown, Giana, S Perri, De Felice, D Smith, F Falzon


Croatia: Neads, Albiston, Jeffries, Camidge, Wright, McKenzie, Kvesic, Baltic, Joiner, Kuman, Y Dzelalija, Mesic, Brown, M Begovic, J Zeitzen


University: K Gavan, O’Callaghan, J Edwards, C Behrens, S Goninon, P Kuzis, J Forbes, J Turnbull, M Shaw, P Crowther, Wanner, Robinson, C Hargrave, C Green, Anderton, Cruse, D Kehl, N Edwards, J Fox


Olympia: Collar, Vavoulas, J Tsiakis, Padas, Hey, H Hages, Puclin, C Brown, Hart, Kantzos, G Hages, Parolas, Keskeridis, T Tarros, Suris, Papastamatis, D Crosson


South Hobart: R Pride, S Bennett, S Adkins, C Warn, R Zeitzen, G Clark, A Poole, S Nicholson, J Nicholson, I Colhoun, Jordan, B Sherman, C McClung, Longey, S Ryan, D Oddie, S Westwood, M Zeitzen, A Cheetham


Howrah: Rowley, T New, N Onn, Lockley, R New, S Hadley, K Brightman, J Bell, A Dobbie, A Hales, R Dixson, G Schueller, G Frame, P Engels, Smith, S Sallah, J Phillips, Harvey, J Webb


St Leonards: G Woodward, R Van Pelan, J Dyer, A Garcie, C Stocks, N Koladjashincj, D McLean, D Lowe, C Ridgeway, R Williams, S Heffernan, D Rough, S Able, J Brown


Rapid: Mark Evans, Andy White, Garry Ashlin, John Dilba, Jack Dilba, Paul Sherman, John White, Phil Murray, Phillip McKay, John Fletcher, John Cionci, Gas Cavarretta, Uwe Metzenthin, D Darwell, Karidis, Colin Lush, M Brouwer


Riverside Olympic: John Peters, Leon Colgrave, Jason King, Callum McNeil, Lyndon Prince, S Biggar, R Brown, Robert King, David Willey, Tony Walmsley, D Smith, D Colgrave, S King, A Bassett, M Taylor


Kingborough United: T Maccallini, R Barker, D Pott, J Cummings, M Reid, G Allcock, S De Haan, J Ellis, D Trueman, R Bolton, T Banagan, G Brinklow, S Pepper, G Scott, V Grimes, M Trotter, J Townsend, D Dingjan, N Marlow, I Allcock, L Varian, D Logan


Hobart City: M Rhodes, M Pace, A Pignalosa, P Marino, Garvey, Strates, Hobbs, R Marino, P Kaproulias, L Taglieri, M Sly, Machen, K Barker, N Marino, Andrjecovic, Palermo, Raglione, Deschipper, Plunkett, Maxwell, Popovic


Metro-Claremont: B Porthouse, S Pitchford, G Sargent, Korn, Hennessey, Parish, M Garth, B Lietz, A Ferrall, J Mackinnon, D Prestage, Barkbaum, P Stephenson, A Tassell, M Phillips, D Barker

49 comments:

Trigger said...

Walter. you will find that scott ( slugger) young should have been included in the original white eagle senior squad as you will well know he was a major cog in our midfield for many a premiership together with stoddy

eightball said...

thats right walter, the big horse won the white eagles best and fairest in 1984- and then 20 years later in 04

Walter said...

Trigger and eightball, of course I know Slugger was in the senior White Eagles squad! The squads listed here were from particular days and certain players may have been missing and others included. Slugger's contribution to White Eagle's success over the years has been well documented. He is included in this reserves side because he was probably coming back from injury or something like that, as I said in the preamble.

eightball said...

it was just for those that don't have as far back a memory as others plessonator. i hope u bring back a few more golden oldies. they would put our current league to shame

eightball said...

and is tsakiris the only man now to play in the 80's 90's 00's and now the 10's?? he should have been captain coach president already. and bring back the prestige!! saw his name in there for old metro- get him a jersey someone!!! C'MON

oldtimer said...

I reckon guys like Hey Kevin Connell, Calvert and Mcglone were state league players

Michael said...

in answer to anonymous, and the stangely out of context opener on this article.

Michael Roach has accepted an occasional guest host role on the Letterman show, this will not affect his current position as head clown at Nelson FC

With that in mind, Top 10 football rumours, some may be true!

10 Ben Crosswell to play for Beachside in 2010

9 Ben Crosswell to play for Taroona in 2010

8 Ben Crosswell to play for Hobart Utd in 2010

7 Ben Crosswell to play for Zebra's in 2010 (I could go on, one of these has got to be right!)

6 George Krambousanos to leave Eagles to take up a position as head of the Greek orthodox church in Tassie.

5 Eamon Kelly to attend anger management and english language classes

4 Jackson Marsh to lose 10 kilo's and lose the tag of the "fat knight"

3 Corey Smith to be appointed new CEO at FFT

2 The Mercury sack the only journalist interested in the round ball game in Tassie

And the number one football rumour!!! People will stop writing bullsh*t on this blog in 2010

Walter said...

oldtimer, if you read the earlier article about Best in Tasmania, you would have seen that Chris Hey and Kevin Connell were in the senior Calies line-up. Ian McGlone and Greg Calvert were at times, too. It just happens that they were in the reserve squad in the line-ups for this current article, for the weekends chosen, probably because they were coming back from injury or were filling in for the reserves on that particular weekend. These squads weren't necessarily set in concrete for the whole season. I plucked out the squads from weekends at random, when I just happened to be at those particular games. It doesn't mean that next weekend they weren't in the senior squad. I could not possibly attend EVERY game on weekends and so I've only chosen squads from the games I attended. I hope that explains things. Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Michael, you are getting a little precious about the blog yes?I'm sure all readers appreciate the non fiction on here as well as the fiction.

As for your post, I hear channel ten are looking for someone to replace rove this year, he made it pretty big by not being funny and you are exhibiting those traits!

the sniper said...

Michael, rumours 10 to 7 already dispelled - Crossa heading to Melb with better half for 2010 - lock it in. What will Beachside, Taroona and Zebras do for cutting edge now?

Anonymous said...

eightball.....The Tsakiris in the Olympia line up would be Chris and Peters older brother Billy, he was a great goal scorer for the club. I am sure Walter would agree

John P.

Walter said...

I'm sure you're right, John. It would have been Billy Tsakiris, who was a pretty good striker.

Anonymous said...

At least Billy was until Sam Kruijver almost decapitated him at Claire Street one day back around 2003 or 2004. Billy was taken away unconscious in an ambulance. I never saw him play again.

matthew rhodes said...

Theres a player in that list of sqauds that i used really enjoy watching play.Peter crowther he was great to watch and a bloody good bloke of the park in hes day one of the best going around i sure you would remeber him walter.

eightball said...

no rhodesy- you were the best bloke- can you set the record for me M.R? who have you tried to sign so far?? apparantely, corey smith was a bit arrogant on the phone to you??

Walter said...

Hi Matthew

Of course I remember Peter Crowther. He was one of my good friends in my coaching days when he was a player. He was an excellent player.

I received an email from him late last year and saw him just briefly also at one time last year. He's working in Singapore.

Cheers!

Walter said...

Matthew

There's a photo of Peter Crowther in the article titled "Five-a-side and Seven-a-side the precursors to Futsal" a couple of weeks back.

matthew rhodes said...

Sure eightball had a chat to corey hes wasnt arrogant loved to have him onboard put hes happy at the knights.Have signed jayden wiggins from the knights and of course have signed nathan from hobart united in goal that it at this stage.Have good lot of you blokes at metro and thats our future but you never now its early days and we would love to top up our squad.Thanks for that info on peter walter he was great to watch all thought scored past me a lot but then again who didnt.

Anonymous said...

Apparently Jayden Wiggins is signing with Metro, any truth to this?

madmcglone said...

Div ! was a bit of a fun league with a bit of seriousness. I much preferred playing in the state league, more intensity, plus you got paid

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Anonymous said...

great to see hobart united with 45 plus players on tues night .not bad for a club that were folding.

madmcglone said...

Steve Pitchford was the hardest man along with ray parkes I ever played against in tassie.

Anonymous said...

Looking at Hobart United's Fees on their web-site, I don't think it will be long before they do fold...........lol. @ $220 per senior player, wonder who worked that out.......Unless FFT gives them a massive discount compared to all other clubs how will they pay their club running cost's for the year???? training equip, coaches, ground fees, referee fees, the list goes on. $220 will only voever FFT team nomination and player registration with FFT. And from what I've heard hardly any of their players pay up!

I'm tipping they fold at end of 2010!!!

eightball said...

hobart united is the new man city of the tas soccer, and broady shall reign supreme

madmcglone said...

Might get my boots on and be the Hobart united's marquee signing

the priest said...

I dont pretend to be aware of Hobart Utd's financials but I understand they are sponsored by Tassal and presumably would also raise money through community and social events and kiosk??. Any club who relies on player subs to stay afloat is doomed....

Anonymous said...

I also heard Hobart Utd are the new Man City of Hobart, Matthew Sanders could be the Marquee signing fot them.

eightball said...

mat sanders can't be the marquee signing because he is not the sufficiant shade they are looking for in a star. super striker awok mario ring is staying put for them

Anonymous said...

Looking at their website, looks like Hobart United has got a very high quality coaching staff as opposed to the past hence the 45+ numbers at training? The fees were low last year too.

Anonymous said...

heard one of the 3 Scottish imports that played at Metro last year is training at Clarence, can anyone confirm if it's Ricky Orr?

The Phoenix said...

With all this talk of fee's do you think we could get a list of what is being charged per club from premier men down to the youth .
It would be interesting to see the dearest club and of course the cheapest.

matthew rhodes said...

ricky orr is back in scotland.

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Anonymous said...

tippin a mass culling of players at clarence soon .a few very disgruntled player also fees are $330.oo

the sniper said...

Anon 8.05 c'mon, dish the dirt! - apart from the 330 bricks (which is not that unusual), what are CU players disgruntled about? Lack of first team opportunity or Brownie's strange ways?

Anonymous said...

Brownie does have strange ways but they are effective ways that clearly get the job done. 330 not too bad as rumours are other clubs charging 350+. have fft raised revenue targets again this year or are clubs continuously getting short of cash?

The Phoenix said...

Getting the job done ? Hmmm been a mid table side for a s long as he has coached them and they finished 24 points behind the league winners last year .
Yes they won the statewide comps but surely the league is the indicator of success for a coach .

I hear that youth will be paying 195 at Clarence this year , might be why they can keep the senior mens fees down a bit .

irate1 said...

HOLEY COW WHINGE MOAN AND GROAN ABOUT FEES OF 300-350 COSTS THAT MUCH TO BUY A MEMBERS SEASON TICKET IN A-LEAGUE.
GET REAL IF WE CANT AFFORD THE FEES FOR THIS COMP WERE DELUSIONAL ABOUT A SIDE IN A- LEAGUE.
TIME TO DO THE SUMS AND GET OF ASSES TO HELP NOT MOAN AND GROAN LIKE SCHOOL GIRLS HAVING A HISSY FIT .
SORRY GIRLS NO INSULTS MENT JUST USING A COMPARISON MOST GIRLS SHOW MORE BALLS THAN THE WOULD BE,S ON HERE LATELY

Anonymous said...

To look at the Registration fee in isolation is bogus. One should also ask what does the player get for the fee he pays eg a cap. track suit top etc along with experience and quality of coaching staff also add in other perks throughout the year the organisation itself and how it is run and most importantly of all how the player is accepted with in the club by all of his peers, committee and supporters...then you can compare value.

Anonymous said...

That is a very good point but the reality is that unfortunately most clubs dont offer much to players in return for their money. the majority of clubs in our prem league do not give their players much at all in return and take players for granted. All you would have to do is ask the majority of players and they would agree.

Re the point of A league and costings Irate I am sure the money wouldnt be an issue for most at all if they were recieving exposure to better playing facilities, government funding and a higher standard of football. Unfortunately what we currently face for these fees is an ordinary standard of games and nothing in return for both player and spectators alike.

Anonymous said...

Mid table slog is about fair for the playing list that Brownie works with. What the results last year in cup comps show is that the coach can get the group to perform as a team quite frequently,a good coach. Their league form is the reality of an ordinary group of players that Brownie has to work with. Every now and then he may get them to group together but the talent among individuals in the eastern shore club is very ordinary, young or not being no real excuse.

Captain said...

To the Phoenix, I think most coaches would have been pretty happy to achieve what Andrew Brown did last year.

The Phoenix said...

Captain , I dont disagree , he would be chuffed with their end of season form , but as I said the premiership is the holy grail and you cant win that from the middle of the table. If you look at Walters last post it would appear that even Brownie thinks they will again battle it out at the wrong end of the ladder .
Not sure about the player mentioned as being a big loss , Jake played nearly all last season in the ressies . Time will tell .

Anonymous said...

captain, clarence finished 8 games behind south hobart and won two trophies that nobody else were really interested in winning .to watch zebras and south play it was like lets get this over with .

irate1 said...

Its amusing when you read comments like #won 2 trophys noone was interested in winning#.
We complain about fees , we complain about fft not giving us competition then we make mundane statements about the things they do organise.
I recall the old state league days of the tasmanian aussie rules when they did same thing along the lines of north south challenge at seasons end and everyone loved to play in it to prove who was the best (a pride thing mostly) and they canned the format and removed some teams to tfl,s ultimate downturn .
Are we to follow that lead and complain about everything on offer or make the most of it and attempt to grow on it if we are to become a serious soccer body.
In reply tyo anonymous about being glad to pay fees if good competition offered and better playing conditions and grounds -- that was whole point of my previous posts, Tasmania is not big enough people wise or company dollar wise to afford the better things like A-League its costs are fenomenal and after first year we would struggle to survive and end up going further downhill due to impact on years to come finacially.The biggest problem we would face is retaining any first class players we unearthed because we cant afford to pay them but believe me the mainland teams will and they will lure them from our shores at the first opportunity.
(example $50000 rumored payment to lure thompson from the jets to melbourne)
One day i hope it happens as im a 1 eyed tassie boy myself and pride is a good thing in sport ...

Sympathy and best wishs to walter on his loss hang in there mate...

Captain said...

Phoenix - do you really believe Browny doesn't think that Clarence won't be top four this year? - that's just false modesty on his part.

It would be interested to hear the views of Zebras, Northern Rangers, South Hobart people whether they think the SWC and State Premiership titles are worth winning ...

The Phoenix said...

Captain , only time will answer that question .Bring on the season .
I thought that south looked very much like a side that wanted to be state championslast year as well as premiers. In the end they were simply out played .

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